Comments on: Religious Leaders Should Steer Clear Of Global Warming http://www.askgavino.com/articles/2009/11/religious-leaders-should-steer-clear-of-global-warming/ Ask Gavino Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:22:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carl M http://www.askgavino.com/articles/2009/11/religious-leaders-should-steer-clear-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Carl M Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:04:49 +0000 http://www.askgavino.com/?p=665#comment-103 Religion, or having a common belief and dis-allowing all other beliefs is what keeps the economy going. It's worked for all of mankind through fighting and war. We'd rather be dead than 'forced' to live any other way than the way we've chosen. Of course, if people were open minded, we could live freely by simply being considerate of others. What good is that, though? No one would have big power and be able to prove anything. Being an environmentalist means I can say "I'm saving Mother Earth!"... When in reality, the Earth made you.. and you're only a short time from going back to it. Replace 'Earth' with 'God' or whatever deity you choose and it's all the same. We're here for a short time. Enjoy it, try to get along and be open to why you're here in the first place. Religion, or having a common belief and dis-allowing all other beliefs is what keeps the economy going. It’s worked for all of mankind through fighting and war. We’d rather be dead than ‘forced’ to live any other way than the way we’ve chosen. Of course, if people were open minded, we could live freely by simply being considerate of others. What good is that, though? No one would have big power and be able to prove anything. Being an environmentalist means I can say “I’m saving Mother Earth!”… When in reality, the Earth made you.. and you’re only a short time from going back to it. Replace ‘Earth’ with ‘God’ or whatever deity you choose and it’s all the same.

We’re here for a short time. Enjoy it, try to get along and be open to why you’re here in the first place.

]]> By: JoeB http://www.askgavino.com/articles/2009/11/religious-leaders-should-steer-clear-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-99 JoeB Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:18:52 +0000 http://www.askgavino.com/?p=665#comment-99 @Alastair I have a compromise solution for the UK - Eat more milk fed veal! This does 2 things 1) by killing cows when they're only babies prevents them spewing a lifetime of methane 2) keeping them penned up and drinking milk will minimize the methane emission from each calf. Economically farmers would benefit since veal is typically more expensive than regular corn fed beef and since the calves will be penned farmers can raise more calves per acre! There is an answer to every problem if you just sit down with a pint or two and think things through. @Alastair
I have a compromise solution for the UK – Eat more milk fed veal! This does 2 things 1) by killing cows when they’re only babies prevents them spewing a lifetime of methane 2) keeping them penned up and drinking milk will minimize the methane emission from each calf. Economically farmers would benefit since veal is typically more expensive than regular corn fed beef and since the calves will be penned farmers can raise more calves per acre!
There is an answer to every problem if you just sit down with a pint or two and think things through.

]]> By: Alastair http://www.askgavino.com/articles/2009/11/religious-leaders-should-steer-clear-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Alastair Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:15:50 +0000 http://www.askgavino.com/?p=665#comment-98 Religious Leaders are being seduced by climate change fundamentalism in the same way as politicians. The ideas of both are often only half thought through. For example will the increased poverty caused by the cost of CO2 reduction actually be more detrimental than the effects of climate change? - Indeed we could have both if the science is flawed and CO2 reduction does not halt the warming. Only yesterday, the UK government (health and climate change departments) showed this short-sightedness by appearing to endorse the policy proposed in the Lancet of killing off one third of the UK livestock. The argument was that this would help the planet by reducing methane from the animals and also (believe it or not!) help people's health by reducing the amount of meat they eat. Having had government ministers endorse this as an excellent idea in the morning, by afternoon it became clear they had forgotten to consult the department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. This department then pointed out that 1) Farmers would not exactly be happy that the government had just effectively proposed wiping out a third of their livestock and income. 2) In a globalised world, reducing meat supply in the UK, rather than improving health, is more likely to cause an increase of imports from South America increasing the destruction of forest to make way for farming and increasing the transport CO2 emissions to get the meat to the UK. God save us and the planet from politicians and religious leaders!!! Religious Leaders are being seduced by climate change fundamentalism in the same way as politicians. The ideas of both are often only half thought through. For example will the increased poverty caused by the cost of CO2 reduction actually be more detrimental than the effects of climate change? – Indeed we could have both if the science is flawed and CO2 reduction does not halt the warming. Only yesterday, the UK government (health and climate change departments) showed this short-sightedness by appearing to endorse the policy proposed in the Lancet of killing off one third of the UK livestock. The argument was that this would help the planet by reducing methane from the animals and also (believe it or not!) help people’s health by reducing the amount of meat they eat. Having had government ministers endorse this as an excellent idea in the morning, by afternoon it became clear they had forgotten to consult the department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. This department then pointed out that 1) Farmers would not exactly be happy that the government had just effectively proposed wiping out a third of their livestock and income. 2) In a globalised world, reducing meat supply in the UK, rather than improving health, is more likely to cause an increase of imports from South America increasing the destruction of forest to make way for farming and increasing the transport CO2 emissions to get the meat to the UK. God save us and the planet from politicians and religious leaders!!!

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